Friday 28 November 2014

Lawrence Tomlinson responds to RBS/Treasury Select Committee exchange on ‘inaccurate’ evidence.

" It’s extremely disappointing that once again RBS has not taken an open and honest approach to dealing with very serious allegations. The misleading nature of the evidence provided by RBS executives Derek Sach and Chris Sullivan makes a mockery of both the Parliamentary process and of the SMEs who have suffered as a result of the banks’ actions. Once again, we are left to question whether this is incompetence on behalf of the bank or intentional distortion of the facts. Either way, when we have paid such a high price to save the bank, and to remunerate the highest quality staff, it is beyond unacceptable that this behaviour should continue. Mr Sullivan even reportedly received a £470,000 bonus shortly after his appearance in front of the Committee"


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The bank is still too big to fail and in turn, too big to control – it’s time for decisive action to create smaller, more manageable banks who have to compete for clients to stop the perverse incentives that have prevailed amongst the biggest banks. 

http://www.tomlinsonreport.com/ 

Thursday 27 November 2014

Lawrence Tomlinson speaking on Radio 4 on the 24th November (on for 4 weeks) - worth a listen

Lawrence Tomlinson who has changed how the view of the public over how SME's are treated as cash cows by the banks and factoring companies speaks well during this interview  on Radio 4 the Today program- well worth listening too

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The recording starts 2:40 into the program.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04prcsd

Wednesday 26 November 2014

A "toxic" and "aggressive" culture inside British banks that led to scandals such as fraud in the asset based finance industry will take a generation to change, a report says.

A culture that was decades in the making will take years to unwind, the joint study by Cass Business School and think tank New City Agenda concludes.

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It estimates that poor standards have cost the UK industry £38.5bn in fines and customer redress over 15 years.

The banking industry said it was "striving hard" to rebuild trust.

The report found that at least £27bn of the £38.5bn in fines was due to mis-selling of personal protection insurance (PPI).

In the six years between 2008 and 2014, banks received 21 million complaints, it said.

Over two decades "an aggressive sales culture took hold in retail banking," with staff in some branches receiving cash bonuses, iPods, or tickets to Wimbledon for hitting sales targets, it said.

Those that failed to hit targets "were humiliated by having cabbages and other vegetables placed on their desks," it added.

Long journey
 
"A toxic culture which was decades in the making will take a generation to turn around," said Conservative MP and New City Agenda co-founder David Davis.

Archbishop of Canterbury Justin Welby, who sits on the New City Agenda advisory board, said: "It is clear that much more needs to be done by all stakeholders for trust to be restored in our financial institutions."
The archbishop said that "huge fines" levied on banks in November in connection with attempted foreign exchange rate manipulation "illustrate the length of the journey of culture change that still needs to be travelled".

Continue reading: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-30190753

Tuesday 25 November 2014

Did the Bank Wreck My Business? The lawyers of RBS & Lloyds wrecked the program

The program highlighted the problems of lying bankers - Did it nail RBS and Lloyds? NO

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Andrew Tyrie MP and Alison Loveday (pictured with her partner) of Berg were very impressive.


The program is worth watching: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04t6jy1

Monday 24 November 2014

Did the Bank Wreck My Business? Asset Based Finance is an industry that thrives on closing solvent companies for pure greed

 Panorama: The banks we bailed out are supposed to be supporting British business, but RBS and Lloyds have been accused of wrecking good companies. Reporter Andrew Verity meets the entrepreneurs who say their businesses have been unfairly shut down.

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He also hears new revelations from a former Government insider on the power and influence of Britain's biggest banks.

Panorama tonight 8:30

 http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04t6jy1

Sunday 23 November 2014

RBS apologises for LYING THROUGH THEIR BACK TEETH in evidence to the Treasury committee

ADMIN: FOR RBS GRG READ THE WHOLE OF THE ASSET BASED FINANCE INDUSTRY - THE SAME INDUSTRY THAT SPENDS £M'S HIDING THE TRUTH THAT THE PROFIT IS IN CLOSING SOLVENT COMPANIES THROUGH HOSTILE INSOVENCIES - 705 OF ONE OFFICE THEIR TURN OVER WAS TERMINATION FEES

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Royal Bank of Scotland has apologised for giving incorrect evidence to a parliamentary hearing, it has emerged.
Bank directors appeared before the Treasury Committee in June to answer claims that RBS's Global Restructuring Group (GRG) had deliberately killed off viable firms.

Newly released letters show that RBS chairman Sir Philip Hampton later said some of the evidence "lacked clarity".

Committee chairman Andrew Tyrie branded the evidence as "unacceptable".

GRG handled RBS's loans to companies considered to be a possible risk.

But there were allegations that some viable companies were deliberately forced to close by GRG.
A report by Lawrence Tomlinson, adviser to business secretary Vince Cable, claimed that RBS was making money out of small and medium-sized business that were in financial distress.

One issue of concern for the committee was whether GRG was itself being run to make a profit. But senior directors Derek Sach and Chris Sullivan gave evidence to the committee that suggested this was not the case.

However, in his subsequent letter to Mr Tyrie, Sir Philip did accept that GRG was a profit centre, adding: "This lack of clarity on an important point is very disappointing to the committee as it is to me, and I apologise."

But he said the two executives had made an "honest mistake" when addressing the committee.
'Manipulated'
 
In his response, Mr Tyrie also questioned the reliability of other evidence, including the extent of GRG's powers, and statements given about a West Midlands-based company used to publicise the division's success.

This company, metals processor Independent Slitters, was said to have been a GRG success story and the business was happy about its relations with the RBS division.

But after the hearing, the firm wrote to Mr Tyrie, saying it was far from satisfied with the way GRG operated.
Chief executive Daniel Wharrad said Independent Slitters had been "manipulated and played to enhance the public perception of GRG's work".

In a statement accompanying the release of the letters, Mr Tyrie said: "Parliament expects witnesses to give straightforward evidence. Two senior managers at RBS fell short of this standard at a hearing with the Treasury Committee in June.

"Anybody can make a simple mistake in their evidence. But this was more than that - it was materially incorrect on a crucial point and unacceptable

Continue reading: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-30172326

Friday 21 November 2014

Close Brothers AGM Day of Action pictures - ordinary people driven to demonstrate due to the behaviour of Close Brothers!


RABF would like to thank all those who supported the Close Brothers AGM Day of Action - There were a number of people who wanted to attend and the correct decision was made to limit numbers.  This decision was made in conjunction with the Metropolitan Police.  The low key policing of the demonstration by Haringey Command was an example of perfect policing by consent

It is fair to say that the demonstration achieved far more than we could have wished for and the policy of engagement with share holders will prove to the of serious damage to the Directors of Close Brothers - We will kept you updated via this blog over the coming weeks.

It is also worth noting that the staff of Close Brothers conducted them selves well unlike those of Squire Patton Boggs (formerly Squire Sanders) on the day.  

Not one Director of Close Brothers stopped to speak to demonstrators - they sulked in and scurried out - rather pathetic looking people

 



 
 It was agreed by the Action Group in discussion with the Metropolitan Police to keep numbers low  
 Some of the constant stream of share holders of Close Brothers who stopped both going in and out of the AGM to listen and discuss the appalling treatment of Close Brothers Invoice Finance customers

Wednesday 19 November 2014

Come to the #Close #Brothers#AGM

  The 2014 Annual General Meeting of Close Brothers will be held at 10 Crown Place, London EC2A 4FT on Thursday 20 November 2014 at 11.00 a.m.   

Demonstration starts at 10:00

contact: Close@rabf.org.uk

More information http://closefactoring.blogspot.co.uk/ 

warm day expected for the Close Brothers Day of Action -

  The 2014 Annual General Meeting of Close Brothers will be held at 10 Crown Place, London EC2A 4FT on Thursday 20 November 2014 at 11.00 a.m.   



Demonstration starts at 10:00

contact: Close@rabf.org.uk

More information http://closefactoring.blogspot.co.uk/ 

Close Brothers Demonstration - demonstrators are preparing to converge on Crown Place for the Day of Action

  The 2014 Annual General Meeting of Close Brothers will be held at 10 Crown Place, London EC2A 4FT on Thursday 20 November 2014 at 11.00 a.m.   

Demonstration starts at 10:00

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We are looking forward to having a Starbucks with members of Hackney's excellent police force http://content.met.police.uk/Borough/Hackney
 
Meeting places for demonstrators

1: Kingscross Station 

2: Liverpool Street Station

3: At Close Brothers

For more information contact Close@rabf.org.uk

Tuesday 18 November 2014

Come along to the Close Brothers Demonstration on Thursday and say hello

Come along and meet others and say hello if you are near Liverpool Street Station on Thursday.

Bring a box of eggs to throw at bankers that deserve every egg and a lot more!
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The 2014 Annual General Meeting of Close Brothers will be held at 10 Crown Place, London EC2A 4FT on Thursday 20 November 2014 at 11.00 a.m.   

Demonstration starts at 10:00 For more information contact Close@rabf.org.uk 
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MPs tell HMRC to pick up the pace of tax investigations - Wide spread abuse in the asset based finance sector

The Public Accounts Committee has criticised HM Revenue & Customs for its "unacceptably slow" action against tax avoiders.

Margaret Hodge, chair of the committee, said the inaction was putting tax revenues at risk: "HMRC must do more, faster."

She highlighted that a tax avoidance scheme closed down in 2009 was not taken to a tribunal until this year.
"This may be just the tip of the iceberg," Mrs Hodge said.

"It is better for us to get the money than HMRC" reason given for apply termination charges - said by a senior member of staff at a major asset based finance company (sub of a world famous bank)


HMRC headquarters

The Publice Accounts committee will be focused upon to stop the wide spread abuse of the taxpayer by factoring companies when they know how much money can be gained by fraudalently putting a solvent company into liquidation for their PAYE and VAT outstanding amounts that is often up to £0.5M per company and there are thousands annually.

Continue reading: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-30085827



Monday 17 November 2014

Close Brothers Demonstration continues to gain momentum - Come along on Thursday and make your voice heard!

Close Brothers are in the top five worst factoring companies for ripping off their clients - the stories are horrendous - If you have suffered at the hands of this scum called Close Brothers - come along with some rotten eggs - the directors and their stooges deserve every humiliation!

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The 2014 Annual General Meeting of Close Brothers will be held at 10 Crown Place, London EC2A 4FT on Thursday 20 November 2014 at 11.00 a.m.   

Demonstration starts at 10:00
For more information contact Close@rabf.org.uk

Friday 14 November 2014

Banks: Too big to fail, too big to go to jail. Who’s sorry? Every single person who has been defrauded

Almost four years have passed since Bob Diamond sat in the Commons and told MPs: “There was a period of remorse and apology for banks. I think that period needs to be over.”

That was in January 2011, and since then there has been scandal after scandal in his industry, several of them involving his former bank.

Mr Diamond was the kingpin at Barclays but stood down when it was found to have rigged the Libor rate. This week Barclays is up to its neck in shame again, as one of the banks caught manipulating the foreign exchange markets.

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 Fromer RBS chief Stephen Hester

Yet, as is being screamed loudly on newspaper front pages and by politicians, no banker has gone to jail in this country for anything – not for the greed that almost brought the entire economic system of the world to a grinding halt; not for mis-selling financial products to unsuspecting customers; and not for fixing key benchmark interest rates and currency prices.

Mr Diamond? His bonuses, which easily totalled £100m during his reign, are safely stashed away; he has launched a new African banking venture; and his daughter’s recent wedding in the South of France was eye-popping in its opulence. Bob tweeted “Father of the Bride” under a picture of Nell in her dress – made from 35 metres of silk and comprising a 15ft-long train.

 Bob Diamond's daughter Nell wore a dress – made from 35 metres of silk and comprising a 15ft-long train – at her recent wedding in France
 Bob Diamond's former CEO Barclays daughter Nell wore a dress – made from 35 metres of silk and comprising a 15ft-long train – at her recent wedding in France

On Libor, 13 traders have been charged and one has pleaded guilty to the charge of conspiracy to defraud. The judge has imposed a gagging order barring the name of that trader or their bank.

Continue reading: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/analysis-and-features/banks-too-big-to-fail-too-big-to-go-to-jail-whos-sorry-9860107.html

More people signing up to the Close Brothers AGM Demonstration - Oh this going to be fun!

The 2014 Annual General Meeting of Close Brothers will be held at 10 Crown Place, London EC2A 4FT on Thursday 20 November 2014 at 11.00 a.m.   

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Demonstration starts at 10:00
For more information contact Close@rabf.org.uk 

For more general information: http://closefactoring.blogspot.co.uk/

This is what with unregulated uncontrolled factoring companies achieve - Closed solvent businesses

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Thursday 13 November 2014

The banks: how am I here again? Paul Mason Economics Editor for Channel 4 News on the news -

Paul Mason sums up the frustration that every single person who has had fraud committed against them by a bank or factoring company.

WATCH THIS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wf7a53y9RRM&feature=youtu.be

The asset based finance industry thourgh ABFA has run a well oiled marketing campaign to hide the sorry truth of obscene hidden charges - As Lloyds Commercial Finance quote - these are contractual charges and we will have the money - the interest rates make Pay day Lenders look like angels.

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The only way to get justice from crooked employees at factoring companies is by prosecuting them - Why do you apply termination fees? reply from a Close Brothers employee "it is better for to get the money than HMRC" #FRAUD

When is a code of conduct not a code of conduct - Yes that is an ABFA code of conduct - it is advisory - hence cannot be covered by the Ombudsman Service pre July 13 - CRAP.

LIBOR. PPI and SWAPS the banks are being done for previous abuse - factoring companies, their filth IP's and lawyers walk away richer by committing fraud - What do you ABFA do? nothing!


Tuesday 11 November 2014

Latest RABF newsletter has been sent out to members and interested individuals

Summary
The campaign continues with the support of a number of people.  There is now clear evidence that the free for all that was hidden charges and insolvencies on a whim have been controlled to some extent.  The campaign must continue without exception to achieve robust regulation.

We have made the decision to target banks via their asset based divisions, which are a separate company, but wholly owned – The likes of Lloyds Commercial Finance hide behind this ‘we are not part of Lloyds’ – so they become judge jury and executioner with their clients, with some real horror stories.

We wrote to Andrew Bailey the CEO of the Prudential Regulatory Authority (PRA) – We were pleasantly surprised with the reply as it pointed the campaign exactly in the direction that is required to regulation via Parliament.

We are presently working with an MP on an Early Day Motion to get the issue of abuse within the factoring industry to every MP, as they all get a copy of the EDM.  The Government must reply the motion even if it is not debated.

In the summer we met the special advisors to the Minister in BIS to explain what is going on in the factoring industry and how wide spread the abuse is.  They were clearly moved by our case studies and the weakness in the regulatory frame work.  I would like to thank publically the other four people who represented the Group giving their time up freely.

The Treasury Select committee ripped Martin Morrin, the Chairman of ABFA to pieces during the summer as the issue of a factoring industry finally got recognised by Parliament.  The industry was forced into a humiliating admission that its own code of conduct was only agreed as the minimum the members of ABFA would sign up too.

We continue to work with a number of individuals assisting them with their problems brought about by greed from their former factoring.

We continue to work with James Hurley who has moved from the Telegraph to the Times.

Our special thanks has to be extended to Brooks Newmark MP who without his support the campaign would have struggled at Parliament.

If you have not received the full mailing please email: mailing@rabf.org.uk to be added.

Payday loan charges cap announced by FCA - This is why the PRA is so important for 'regulation' of the banking asset based finance divisions

A cap on the amount that payday lenders can charge their customers has been announced by the City regulator.

Payday loan rates will be capped at 0.8% of the amount borrowed a day, said the Financial Conduct Authority (FCA).

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Sounds like a typical rate from a factoring company such as Lloyds Commercial Finance!

In total, no one will have to pay back more than twice what they borrowed, and there will be a £15 cap on default charges.

The loan restrictions will start from January, the regulator said.

"For people who struggle to repay, we believe the new rules will put an end to spiralling payday debts," said FCA chief executive Martin Wheatley.

"For most of the borrowers who do pay back their loans on time, the cap on fees and charges represents substantial protections," he added.

The price cap plan - which includes both interest and fees - remains unchanged from proposals the regulator published in July.

ADMIN: THE 'BANKING' FACTORING INDUSTRY GOING UNDER THE PRA IS A GAME CHANGER


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-30000472

Monday 10 November 2014

Close Brothers AGM Demonstration 20th November 10:00- Be there and make your voice heard

 The Close Brothers AGM Demonstration is going ahead  - Make Close suffer for the misery that they enjoy inflicting on others - other factoring companies AGM's and offices will be targetted


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The 2014 Annual General Meeting of Close Brothers will be held at 10 Crown Place, London EC2A 4FT on Thursday 20 November 2014 at 11.00 a.m. 

Friday 7 November 2014

ABFA have been given evidence of Close Brother Invoice Finance abused their position to get ABFA too.....

ABFA have been given a paper trail that shows that Close Brothers Invoice Finance have used their position to influence the trade association to lie (U turn) in support of Close Brothers.

 Close Brothers Invoice Finance

RABF has requested that ABFA expel Close Brothers at the earliest opportunity - We were given November 2014 as the month that the evidence would looked at forensically to confirm what has been alleged is true.

RABF is available to meet ABFA at a moments notice to give verbal evidence of the serious allegations against Close Brothers.

Preben Preben the CEO of Close Brothers Group has been made aware of these alegations and has not denied them.

If Close Brothers invoice Finance are not expelled by ABFA then the question that was asked at the Treasury Select committee - were some members simply too big to be expelled will be answered.


 David Thomson CEO - Close Brothers Invoice Finance

We hope that Close Brothers will do the decent thing and resign rather than be humiliated by being thrown out of ABFA.



Wednesday 5 November 2014

Ross McEwan CEO RBS said - ....were “serious allegations” that the bank defrauded companies that were its clients by forcing them to go bust.

The City of London Police is investigating allegations of wrongdoing by Royal Bank of Scotland, it emerged on Wednesday night, adding to the Serious Fraud Office’s inquiry.
The financial capital’s economic crimes department has been examining the bank’s behaviour following at least one complaint from an alleged victim who contacted The Independent. The businessman is in a civil court dispute with the bank over the alleged seizing of his assets and has presented the City of London police with a large dossier of paperwork supporting his case.


News of the widening examination of RBS’s practices came as its chief executive pledged to “fully investigate” what he said were “serious allegations” that the bank defrauded companies that were its clients by forcing them to go bust.

Ross McEwan spoke as it emerged that the case is being investigated by the Serious Fraud Office. The allegations were levelled in a sharply critical report by the government adviser Lawrence Tomlinson.

Mr McEwan, who replaced Stephen Hester as chief executive, pledged to “share” the findings of a review he has commissioned into the bank’s business practices which will be led by a regulatory partner at City law firm Clifford Chance. It could cost RBS more than £1m. A spokesperson from the SFO said: “We are aware of the issue and are monitoring the situation. As far as any criminal investigation is concerned we can neither confirm nor deny this. ”

Continue reading: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/city-of-london-police-inquiry-adds-to-rbs-investigations-8966968.html

Simon Carter - Director - Touche Finance - EX Close Brothers - Sum's it up!

Simon has over 20 years experience working as a senior underwriter, operations director, sales director and commercial director for one of the UK's best-known independent Invoice Finance providers. He has been a consistent high achiever for new business conversions, while maintaining both operational and directorial responsibilities.

 Simon Carter
Simon carter worked at one of the most abusive factoring companies - Close Brothers Invoice Finance

 Prior to joining Touch Financial, Simon launched a flagship operations centre for a high-profile Invoice Finance practitioner. His expertise reinforce Touch Financial's position as the largest volume introducer of new business referrals to the UK market, while ensuring the best possible turnaround time for both client and lender.



Tuesday 4 November 2014

Early Day Motion - Campaign moves step further at Parliament

We are actively working with a number of MPs in getting the first of a series of Early Day Motions at Parliament to highlight the un-acceptable level of abuse and fraud in the asset based finance industry.

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 Early Day Motions 

 Early Day Motions (EDMs) are formal motions submitted for debate in the House of Commons. However, very few are actually debated. EDMs allow MPs to draw attention to an event or cause. MPs register their support by signing individual motions.

http://www.parliament.uk/edm

Monday 3 November 2014

City fraud squad’s RBS move is hard to swallow - It is enough to choke on!

Got it. At the City of London nick, they must while away the hours in between nabbing drivers for parking wrongly in Bishopsgate and keeping an eye on the Mayor, Lady Woolf’s, parties, by watching re-runs of The Silence of the Lambs. 

 How else to explain the decision to ask Royal Bank of Scotland to provide the City fraud squad with free training and advice on financial crime? Apparently, the plods are keen to access RBS staff’s knowledge of the markets, financial products and cybertech.

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 Police are keen to access RBS staff’s knowledge of the markets, financial products and cybertech - As criminals you could a more knowledgable bunch!

This is the same bank that published in July, with its interims, a helpful guide to the litigation, investigations and official reviews it was involved with. It begins with the legal cases alleging RBS issued a false prospectus for its rights issue in April 2008.

Then it moves seamlessly into lawsuits arising from the issue of $64 billion (£40 billion) of mortgage-backed securities that failed.

Then there’s the breakdown of the bank’s IT in June 2012 that prevented customers getting to their money. That incident is the subject of a joint UK Financial Conduct and Prudential Regulation Authority investigation.
It’s followed by a discourse on the mis-selling of interest rate-hedging products to small businesses and how RBS has provided £1.4 billion to cover the legal claims.

Still to come are the official Mystery Shopping Review that saw the FCA require RBS to contact customers about the sale of lump-sum products; mis-selling of credit card protection; the Tomlinson Report disclosing how RBS put small businesses into default so it could make more profit out of them; mis-selling of PPI for which £3.2 billion has been put aside; official reviews into the treatment of overdrafts, competition for SME accounts and wholesale banking; investigations in the US into collateralised debt obligations; and US sanctions breaking.

In The Silence of the Lambs, FBI special agent Clarice Starling consults cannibalistic serial killer Dr Hannibal Lecter. In the end, he lets her down, which is one way of putting it, and utters the immortal pay-off: “I do wish we could chat longer, but I’m having an old friend for dinner.”


http://www.standard.co.uk/business/markets/chris-blackhurst-city-fraud-squads-rbs-move-is-hard-to-swallow-9835595.html

Demonstration at Close Brothers, SFP and 1 other on the 20th November

Dear All,

We have been taken aback by the desire of a number of individuals who wish to demonstrate outside SFP.

The plan for the day is to be at Close Brothers AGM from 10 to the start at 11 -There will be people much earlier demonstrating at Close.

SFP - We would be looking to start at 1pm - but there will be others there before hand.

It is the tone in people's voices that have had quite an affect on me.

We would also like to hit one law firm - PDT who proudly show of their ABFA affiliation would be the obvious firm to hit with a vengeance.

There is one within easy reach of Close and SFP who enjoy destroying people's lives.

WE MUST EMPHASIS YOU CAN ATTEND ONE BOTH OR ALL THREE - these are enjoyable events and you get to meet like minded people.

Contact Demostration@rabf.org.uk for more information